... I'll talk to him. Later. Whenever I see him next. [ he is busy sinking down into the mattress though. ] Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to bring this bullshit to you.
[ because regardless of everything... it is embarrassing and he feels bad. ]
There's different flavors, I'll bring you a new one next time.
[ because this is a fair point. ]
Kinda makes last week worse somehow when you think about it. [ so many people have never been on a real date or kissed and yet lust week happened so hard. ] But I'm sure everybody's enlightened now, or whatever.
If it's something they're not interested in or too busy for, that's fine... but sometimes I'm surprised at the roadblocks people make for themselves...
[ this does and does not feel pointed, so he ponders. ]
People feel the need to protect themselves from taking a chance on something that could blow up. It might sound straightforward to somebody else, but it's probably more complicated in their head.
Mm. I do think that there's a fear of rejection or uncertainty, but I also think that comes from inexperience or circumstance. Most people here aren't assholes, so I figure it's more personality match than anything that's the obstacle.
[ he's not denying that there's all sorts of reasons that might be going on... but also he thinks it's insane that this many hot people have no dating experience whatsoever ]
But these are just things people need to figure out on their own. No amount of commentary from me will really change much.
[ though he'll obviously give advice where asked for ]
People's personalities are... interesting. [ he can see why some people are single and other's are just stuck, and this is rich coming from him. ]
Maybe you should just set up an advice booth somewhere and let people confess to you anonymously or something. It might not change anything, but less pressure for people to talk about stuff.
Well yeah, you actually took me seriously. [ which is maybe not exactly what he wanted to admit, given the way he pauses, but whatever. ] I just mean if I asked any of my friends at home it'd be a nightmare, and the other people I might've actually asked are Elysium and Rafayel and... you've met them. Or Edamura-san.
[ two of them are a nightmare of their own and one of them is a disaster. ]
And it's because you took it seriously that it's good advice. [ so yeah. applicable to other people. ]
Elysium and Rafayel would be annoying about it, but they'd probably try to help steer you in the right direction in their own agitating way. [ did he have to call them annoying twice ] Edamura... would probably do his best.
[ help me ]
But it's about how you feel and treat someone. Of course it's serious.
[ tobari is too considerate of other people to brush them off ]
I did talk to all three of them after I talked to you. [ tobari wrestling it out of him made it easier. ] Varying results, and I don't know how much got across for some, but it wasn't terrible. They all did try and I appreciate that. I...
[ ... never mind he's not going to get weird and soft about it. ]
It's not that I mind. Being in your position at home. But I think I said before that the person I usually talk to about this kind of stuff would be Yu, and I can't for multiple reasons. I love my friends and I trust them with my life, but it's still... not the same. Talking to them about this kind of stuff might make things worse if I'm not prepared for how they'd react.
[ they are all still teenagers who have a specific view of one another, and while he knows they'd all try he also knows there are certain levels of judgment coloring those views. ]
[ this is cute. tobari just snorts faintly. he can figure out how the sentence ends, so he won't press yosuke for it. there's some part of him that's just glad that he has other people looking out for him even if tobari's the one kicking him around ]
I get it. Social contexts and the fact that your dynamic with them is just different. Of course you'll be more careful.
[ he is a little baby teenager who is worried about what other little baby teenagers think and sometimes they are clumsy with their words and feelings. suzune is a headache and tobari loves her. ]
But for as long as we're here, you can talk to me if it helps. And if it doesn't, just tell me to shove it.
[ all of his favorite people really are annoying in some degrees somehow... ]
Yeah, that's pretty much it. [ he is in fact a little baby teenager worried what other little baby teenagers will think, thank you. ] I'm... a little more okay admitting it to people here, but I need to be more comfortable thinking about it there before I try, I think. Otherwise it's just gonna be bad for everybody.
[ he does appreciate the offer though, thank you, tobari. ]
I still don't entirely know how to thank you for that. I'm still getting used to actually doing this. [ sometimes you really do just kind of have a realization one day that all of your friendships were shallow as fuck and you've never actually had deep conversations in your life before meeting your current friends. ] And before you say I don't have to, shut up, I want to. Besides paying you in noodles.
I thought it was important for you to see something nice. [ given the state of itehari. ]
I'm doing my best. [ and it helps when his own shit isn't bogging him down, because it means he can push himself forward to help other people. this will also be helpful when he loses his ability to talk a few days later. ] It's one of those things I think we could all stand to remember. That things aren't one-sided, I mean.
... I kinda wish you'd been here from the beginning, but better late than never.
[ nods along in his agreement even if he finds it endearing.
except hm. ah? hm. ]
... you know, I think that's my cue to go to bed. [ like yes, probably, but also please he wants to die even thinking about this. he will thank tobari later maybe. ]
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We're the same age here, shut up.
[ no!!!! ]
... I'll talk to him. Later. Whenever I see him next. [ he is busy sinking down into the mattress though. ] Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to bring this bullshit to you.
[ because regardless of everything... it is embarrassing and he feels bad. ]
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but he'll nudge yosuke again ]
You can bring it to me again. [ easily ] I accept the noodles as offerings.
Better than you keeping it all to yourself or getting shit advice because maybe two other people around here have been on a real date.
[ it's kind of hilarious ]
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[ because this is a fair point. ]
Kinda makes last week worse somehow when you think about it. [ so many people have never been on a real date or kissed and yet lust week happened so hard. ] But I'm sure everybody's enlightened now, or whatever.
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slowly shakes his head... no.... they're all still horrible dates... ]
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If it's something they're not interested in or too busy for, that's fine... but sometimes I'm surprised at the roadblocks people make for themselves...
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People feel the need to protect themselves from taking a chance on something that could blow up. It might sound straightforward to somebody else, but it's probably more complicated in their head.
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[ he's not denying that there's all sorts of reasons that might be going on... but also he thinks it's insane that this many hot people have no dating experience whatsoever ]
But these are just things people need to figure out on their own. No amount of commentary from me will really change much.
[ though he'll obviously give advice where asked for ]
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Maybe you should just set up an advice booth somewhere and let people confess to you anonymously or something. It might not change anything, but less pressure for people to talk about stuff.
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I'm really not that full of myself.
[ THIS IS SUCH A FUNNY SUGGESTION YOSUKE ]
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[ it's less about tobari thinking he's good at it and more about him thinking apparently everybody needs help in this stupid place. ]
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Suggest it to me again if I'm ever cursed.
But I think most people would be too embarrassed or uninterested. Glad you think the advice is good enough for that, though.
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[ two of them are a nightmare of their own and one of them is a disaster. ]
And it's because you took it seriously that it's good advice. [ so yeah. applicable to other people. ]
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Elysium and Rafayel would be annoying about it, but they'd probably try to help steer you in the right direction in their own agitating way. [ did he have to call them annoying twice ] Edamura... would probably do his best.
[ help me ]
But it's about how you feel and treat someone. Of course it's serious.
[ tobari is too considerate of other people to brush them off ]
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I did talk to all three of them after I talked to you. [ tobari wrestling it out of him made it easier. ] Varying results, and I don't know how much got across for some, but it wasn't terrible. They all did try and I appreciate that. I...
[ ... never mind he's not going to get weird and soft about it. ]
It's not that I mind. Being in your position at home. But I think I said before that the person I usually talk to about this kind of stuff would be Yu, and I can't for multiple reasons. I love my friends and I trust them with my life, but it's still... not the same. Talking to them about this kind of stuff might make things worse if I'm not prepared for how they'd react.
[ they are all still teenagers who have a specific view of one another, and while he knows they'd all try he also knows there are certain levels of judgment coloring those views. ]
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I get it. Social contexts and the fact that your dynamic with them is just different. Of course you'll be more careful.
[ he is a little baby teenager who is worried about what other little baby teenagers think and sometimes they are clumsy with their words and feelings. suzune is a headache and tobari loves her. ]
But for as long as we're here, you can talk to me if it helps. And if it doesn't, just tell me to shove it.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. [ he is in fact a little baby teenager worried what other little baby teenagers will think, thank you. ] I'm... a little more okay admitting it to people here, but I need to be more comfortable thinking about it there before I try, I think. Otherwise it's just gonna be bad for everybody.
[ he does appreciate the offer though, thank you, tobari. ]
I still don't entirely know how to thank you for that. I'm still getting used to actually doing this. [ sometimes you really do just kind of have a realization one day that all of your friendships were shallow as fuck and you've never actually had deep conversations in your life before meeting your current friends. ] And before you say I don't have to, shut up, I want to. Besides paying you in noodles.
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You shared a piece of your home with me. That's plenty.
[ but he does sort of get it. there's an urge to repay the people who take care of you. ]
Just don't lose heart and keep doing what you're doing to help others. If I can take some weight off your shoulders, that's just me doing my part too.
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I'm doing my best. [ and it helps when his own shit isn't bogging him down, because it means he can push himself forward to help other people. this will also be helpful when he loses his ability to talk a few days later. ] It's one of those things I think we could all stand to remember. That things aren't one-sided, I mean.
... I kinda wish you'd been here from the beginning, but better late than never.
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so cute that tobari kind of just has to say, ]
But then I would've had to meet Elysium earlier?
[ no he's just dunking on him for fun ]
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[ sorry, cuteness over. annoying time now. just makes an assumption. ]
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[ BE NICE TO ELYSIUM ]
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I don't wanna know what he's said to you, do I?
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[ why is he shooting rafayel
anyway pauses as he realizes something. sighs deeply. ]
When it's not 1 AM, I'm going to tell you how to be safely intimate with a guy.
[ we can handwave this but unfortunately he's realizing he needs to do this before yosuke goes home ]
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except hm. ah? hm. ]
... you know, I think that's my cue to go to bed. [ like yes, probably, but also please he wants to die even thinking about this. he will thank tobari later maybe. ]
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