Do you have to say it like that? [ stop being a weenie, yosuke. ]
We, uh... haven't actually talked since then. Been kinda busy. [ he has not, they just haven't. ] I'm pretty sure it's not like that since I'm the one who asked him, and I'm not into him like that, but uh... good to know for the future, I think.
[ ... ugh. ]
Why are there so many unspoken rules about this crap?
They're not actually supposed to be unspoken. Anyone worthwhile romantically knows how to communicate. People are just shy because of egos or fear of rejection. But you can still be good friends that make out sometimes—but part of being good friends is talking shit out. Don't lose sight of that.
[ nudges yosuke again ]
And if anyone does start to develop feelings, take a break from the physical stuff. Or else you'll get more confused down the line.
[ he makes a face because like yes, that's part of it. nudging back anyway. ]
... he's a cool guy. I like hanging out with him, even without the making out part. I haven't decided about the making out part? But it was, like... it wasn't bad.
[ he looks at the ceiling though. ]
Maybe it wouldn't be as weird if I didn't think about the part I might see him again in the future.
... it's one of those things that's only weird if you make it weird, but if it's the first time you've really been that vulnerable with someone, it'll probably feel awkward at first. People talk about physicality like it's all just headiness and impulse, but there can be a lot of trust involved.
[ especially for little novice baby gays like yosuke and whoever this other guy is ]
You don't have to do it again if you don't want to. But if you do, just make sure you talk about it. Avoiding it will only make things weirder.
Yeah, it was... awkward for both of us, I think, since he wasn't expecting me to ask and I don't think I was either. But I trust him. There're some things he gets that nobody else would, so it kinda made sense to try this, too.
[ ... ]
Isn't it weird to want to do it again if I like somebody else though?
People approach intimacy and physicality differently. I don't think it matters if you kiss someone without feelings involved as long as you're both on the same page, but I'd be more careful with someone I was actually into.
But sometimes, it really is just stress relief. Where I'm from probably colored my viewpoint on things, though.
[ people did all sorts of physical things without being actually emotionally invested all the time. sometimes you sell love an entire experience ]
this is definitely a thought and will be a thought he carries forward, but he seems to be contemplating. ]
Whenever I see him again, I guess we'll talk about it if he seems like he wants to. No point bringing it up if he wants to pretend it didn't happen in the first.
You can say something like "we can skip over this if you don't want to do it again" but if you're both too mindful of each other's feelings, you're both going to not talk about it even though you both want to talk about it.
Not that I'm only coming to you to dredge up your old memories, but I know I can trust you to actually tell me the truth. [ hrgh. ] I don't know, Ryuji's like... I'm pretty sure he was into it but the "why"'s what I don't know about and I have a feeling if I ask he'll just kinda combust.
It's fine to experiment because you're friends, but he shouldn't recklessly rush into things with someone he cherishes in the future. He should know himself first. For both his sake and theirs.
Kinda the point of practicing, yeah. [ ... ] He has his own Yu. Name's Akira. Pretty sure he hadn't thought about it until I said something, but when I talk to him and he starts telling me about what Akira means to him, it sounds exactly the same.
[ so he figured he would help. "help." ]
I thought maybe I was reading into it, but he kissed back so I doubt it.
... yeah. Probably on a similar wavelength but just never considered it. But I'm serious in not getting so caught up in trying to help him that you lose sight of your own relationship boundaries.
That's how you get into a mess.
[ HE REALLY HAS TO BE CAUTIONARY ABOUT THIS oh yosuke... it's fine if you get into a mess... but as an older brother he has to say it, even if he's not followed ]
[ he doesn't think he's meant to answer the thought, but: ]
We're from the same place, he's just, like, five years ahead of my time.
[ so you know. shit's weird. ]
But I get it, I know. [ ... ] If anything it kinda made me think about the Yu thing more. I know what my boundaries are, I think. [ "still kinda dumb to be figuring it out right now, but we do have downtime." ]
... I'll talk to him. Later. Whenever I see him next. [ he is busy sinking down into the mattress though. ] Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to bring this bullshit to you.
[ because regardless of everything... it is embarrassing and he feels bad. ]
There's different flavors, I'll bring you a new one next time.
[ because this is a fair point. ]
Kinda makes last week worse somehow when you think about it. [ so many people have never been on a real date or kissed and yet lust week happened so hard. ] But I'm sure everybody's enlightened now, or whatever.
If it's something they're not interested in or too busy for, that's fine... but sometimes I'm surprised at the roadblocks people make for themselves...
[ this does and does not feel pointed, so he ponders. ]
People feel the need to protect themselves from taking a chance on something that could blow up. It might sound straightforward to somebody else, but it's probably more complicated in their head.
Mm. I do think that there's a fear of rejection or uncertainty, but I also think that comes from inexperience or circumstance. Most people here aren't assholes, so I figure it's more personality match than anything that's the obstacle.
[ he's not denying that there's all sorts of reasons that might be going on... but also he thinks it's insane that this many hot people have no dating experience whatsoever ]
But these are just things people need to figure out on their own. No amount of commentary from me will really change much.
[ though he'll obviously give advice where asked for ]
People's personalities are... interesting. [ he can see why some people are single and other's are just stuck, and this is rich coming from him. ]
Maybe you should just set up an advice booth somewhere and let people confess to you anonymously or something. It might not change anything, but less pressure for people to talk about stuff.
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We, uh... haven't actually talked since then. Been kinda busy. [ he has not, they just haven't. ] I'm pretty sure it's not like that since I'm the one who asked him, and I'm not into him like that, but uh... good to know for the future, I think.
[ ... ugh. ]
Why are there so many unspoken rules about this crap?
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[ nudges yosuke again ]
And if anyone does start to develop feelings, take a break from the physical stuff. Or else you'll get more confused down the line.
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... he's a cool guy. I like hanging out with him, even without the making out part. I haven't decided about the making out part? But it was, like... it wasn't bad.
[ he looks at the ceiling though. ]
Maybe it wouldn't be as weird if I didn't think about the part I might see him again in the future.
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[ especially for little novice baby gays like yosuke and whoever this other guy is ]
You don't have to do it again if you don't want to. But if you do, just make sure you talk about it. Avoiding it will only make things weirder.
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[ ... ]
Isn't it weird to want to do it again if I like somebody else though?
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[ tobari shrugs ]
People approach intimacy and physicality differently. I don't think it matters if you kiss someone without feelings involved as long as you're both on the same page, but I'd be more careful with someone I was actually into.
But sometimes, it really is just stress relief. Where I'm from probably colored my viewpoint on things, though.
[ people did all sorts of physical things without being actually emotionally invested all the time. sometimes you sell love an entire experience ]
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this is definitely a thought and will be a thought he carries forward, but he seems to be contemplating. ]
Whenever I see him again, I guess we'll talk about it if he seems like he wants to. No point bringing it up if he wants to pretend it didn't happen in the first.
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Bring it up.
[ firmly ]
You can say something like "we can skip over this if you don't want to do it again" but if you're both too mindful of each other's feelings, you're both going to not talk about it even though you both want to talk about it.
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Fine. It doesn't have to be right now, right? [ like he doesn't have to go do it right this second. let him hide here instead. ]
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No, it doesn't. But don't forget, and don't kiss again without talking about it.
I'm trying to save you from my old mistakes.
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Not that I'm only coming to you to dredge up your old memories, but I know I can trust you to actually tell me the truth. [ hrgh. ] I don't know, Ryuji's like... I'm pretty sure he was into it but the "why"'s what I don't know about and I have a feeling if I ask he'll just kinda combust.
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[ it was good for yosuke, obviously ]
It's fine to experiment because you're friends, but he shouldn't recklessly rush into things with someone he cherishes in the future. He should know himself first. For both his sake and theirs.
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Kinda the point of practicing, yeah. [ ... ] He has his own Yu. Name's Akira. Pretty sure he hadn't thought about it until I said something, but when I talk to him and he starts telling me about what Akira means to him, it sounds exactly the same.
[ so he figured he would help. "help." ]
I thought maybe I was reading into it, but he kissed back so I doubt it.
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why is it so hard to just be gay? ]
... yeah. Probably on a similar wavelength but just never considered it. But I'm serious in not getting so caught up in trying to help him that you lose sight of your own relationship boundaries.
That's how you get into a mess.
[ HE REALLY HAS TO BE CAUTIONARY ABOUT THIS oh yosuke... it's fine if you get into a mess... but as an older brother he has to say it, even if he's not followed ]
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We're from the same place, he's just, like, five years ahead of my time.
[ so you know. shit's weird. ]
But I get it, I know. [ ... ] If anything it kinda made me think about the Yu thing more. I know what my boundaries are, I think. [ "still kinda dumb to be figuring it out right now, but we do have downtime." ]
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Huh.
[ just. huh. ]
... but alright, so long as that's the case. Go and have fun, even if it's dumb.
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We're the same age here, shut up.
[ no!!!! ]
... I'll talk to him. Later. Whenever I see him next. [ he is busy sinking down into the mattress though. ] Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to bring this bullshit to you.
[ because regardless of everything... it is embarrassing and he feels bad. ]
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but he'll nudge yosuke again ]
You can bring it to me again. [ easily ] I accept the noodles as offerings.
Better than you keeping it all to yourself or getting shit advice because maybe two other people around here have been on a real date.
[ it's kind of hilarious ]
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[ because this is a fair point. ]
Kinda makes last week worse somehow when you think about it. [ so many people have never been on a real date or kissed and yet lust week happened so hard. ] But I'm sure everybody's enlightened now, or whatever.
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slowly shakes his head... no.... they're all still horrible dates... ]
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If it's something they're not interested in or too busy for, that's fine... but sometimes I'm surprised at the roadblocks people make for themselves...
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People feel the need to protect themselves from taking a chance on something that could blow up. It might sound straightforward to somebody else, but it's probably more complicated in their head.
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[ he's not denying that there's all sorts of reasons that might be going on... but also he thinks it's insane that this many hot people have no dating experience whatsoever ]
But these are just things people need to figure out on their own. No amount of commentary from me will really change much.
[ though he'll obviously give advice where asked for ]
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Maybe you should just set up an advice booth somewhere and let people confess to you anonymously or something. It might not change anything, but less pressure for people to talk about stuff.
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